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So Much Technology – So Little Time

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We have, I think, officially passed the point where anyone can keep up with the new technology available

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Jesse Liberty - Silverlight Geek — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:21:50 GMT

We have, I think, officially passed the point where anyone can keep up with the new technology available

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haagel — Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:56:46 GMT

Talking about books...when will YOUR book be released Jesse? I'm looking forward to it! :)

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sariel — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 22:48:23 GMT

Ditto of all those comments that this is a great idea. You have hit the nail on the head with points 1,2 and 3. ditto also on the comment about having to wait to Q1 oh well something to look forward to in the new year.

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figuerres — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:53:06 GMT

YES!!!!

most of the time I have no "designer" to call on or they are contracted and I never get to work with them.

very frustrating to have some pages built by a photoshop guy and then to have to try and makeit work with .net .... it can be done but some of the hacks to make it work suck.

with SL I want to stop having the boss hire a flash guy and just get the graphics that i can import into blend.... which does raise one issue:

importing .psd files ....

I really really really wish there was a tool / addon that would read a psd and write an expression design file with the same layers and such....

so that I could pull it apart without having to buy photoshop.

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BenHayat — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:01:35 GMT

Just ordered your recommended book by Robin. Thanks Jesse!

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BenHayat — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:57:21 GMT

Ah, thanks for dissecting my question and giving me options.

But based on many years of end-user UI design, I'm more in tune with "how do i make sure my users can use this easily and not be confused", but I think I'm going after the aesthetic design.

Very informative post. Love to see it in progress and see what others contribute to it.

MSFT has done it's part giving us the tool, now it's our turn what to do with it!

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jesseliberty — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:50:13 GMT

Ben, if you mean screen design from an aesthetic how do i make this look great view, I'd definately go with the Robin Williams book. If you mean screen design from the "how do i make sure my users can use this easily and not be confused" it would be either Don't Make Me Think" or Why SW Sucks"

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BenHayat — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:55:41 GMT

Jesse, which one of those books would you say, it's best for using for screen design? I know your read a lot of books, which would you pick?

..Ben

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BenHayat — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:51:47 GMT

One of the most challenging aspects of a developer and a designer working on a project, relates to application's "logic" and application's "design". A good application is when the design fits perfect with the logic of the app or where the logic manifests itself in a good design. I've seen good looking apps (from design point of view) but it contradicts totaly with a it's logic and it's interactiveness. And I've seen ugly apps (like the old Lotus 1-2-3, where it became the std in it's time), because the design carried it's logic perfectly and did not get in your way. Although it was not pretty but very effective.

When you have two separate groups (developers and designers) you'll find more often than not, that each one wants to dominate the app.

I also find it, if the developer (knowing the logic well) and be able to artistically design a great UI, is the best combo. Any time I've worked with designers, I found it to be more frustrating than productive. So, I truly believe with the advent of RIA applications, we as developers should become a better designer. You just become more productive.

I welcome this initiative that Jesse has begun!

My two cents!

..Ben

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zmorris — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:24:37 GMT

Great idea. Looking forward to it.

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haagel — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:49:16 GMT

Jesse, this is a great idea! I'd love to learn more about design! :)

And it's true; making things look "pretty" is important. No matter how cool and well designed our code is, if the application looks like crap no one is going to think it is impressive (well, maybe other developers then). Having a really good designer is of course the best solution, but that is not always an option.

Besides, I think designing is fun. I'm just not good at it, but I'd love to learn some basics so that my apps don't look too bad. :)

I hope to see both design in the sense of making things look nice, but also design in the sense of making things behave in a good and userfriendly way (interaction design).

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Qbus — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:22:36 GMT

It seems that the Silverlight application on the Firestarter link (visitmix.com/.../Default.aspx) isn't properly upgraded to Silverlight 2.0. I get a "Get Silverlight" image, and I have the final release installed.