Will Silverlight Controls Become More WPF Like - A Personal Opinion

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ork — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:18:08 GMT

Firstly thanks Jesse for pushing our side of the agenda to SL team.. I wanted to share with you a request I made on SL forums today, and was hoping you could raise it further if you see value.

I was proposing Application class level API for browser's "Working Offline" mode - probably akin to the shut down type API in Windows applications, that notifies changes and acknowledges the state in the browser's "Working Offline" status. It could possibly be surrogated by cache tools in hand with isolated storage. This would be tremendously helpful in some state management scenarios. And it would certainly lay path to an eventual google gear's competitor from MS - hopefully something on the lines of Astonia offline with SQL server compact edition like what was talked about in a Mix 08 session for sync services..

Thanks, and keep listing I guess..

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re: Will Silverlight Controls Become More WPF Like - A Personal Opinion

wisecarver — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 19:23:08 GMT

Good points Jesse.

We depend on you, in turn you can count on us.

Happy Easter guys and gals. ;-)

re: Will Silverlight Controls Become More WPF Like - A Personal Opinion

jesseliberty — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 18:00:24 GMT

Three very quick comments:

1. Please note that these were personal specualations, not a revealing of anything from the company

2. I'm not the slightest bit tired of any of ya'... in fact I'm amazed by time and quality of the feedback.

3. ork (?) - I fully agree; when building a framework you need to be incredilby careful about what gets set in stone. My guess is that the frameworks folks think about these issues longer and harder than I do. But I'm in the lucky position that each time I go to Redmond one of the first questions I get in each meeting is "What are you hearing in the community" and I'm taking your comments (and many others) with me.

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ork — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 11:14:43 GMT

Certainly you have multitudes of competing priorities, but I think you should remember SL is a framework and what you do today has a constraining effect on what you will be able to do tomorrow. And in the context of SL and WPF, it is no secret that MS has publicly stated SL will have things tickle down from WPF, and to look to SL's future we need to have a look at WPF. Now, this begets the question why change some of the core fundamentals today that would without doubt mandate changes in and limitations to what you can bring down from WPF. Case in point, triggers - why push the parts model when you have a perfectly good model in triggers and creating two models will only lead to bigger splits or painful sharp turns in the future. Yes build within the constrains you have but let the (same) foundations define what/how you build the future! Put in the hard work today, and you will be rewarded over the long course - it's as simple as that!

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chris_vickerson — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 01:16:04 GMT

and there you have it first hand... Silverlight will replace asp .net in the very near future ;)

such a tease!

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BenHayat — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 16:31:02 GMT

>>Jesse, looks like Ben and I are your Blog gnomes. ;-)

Mark, I think Jesse is getting Tired of us ;-)